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 Post subject: Double impression
PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 7:00 pm 
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Hi all,

An album I bought many years ago, when I first became interested in KEVIII included a single stamp as illustrated.

This single stamp came with the original collection with the notation :-


"One of the few known examples of a double impression".


To my mind, the description is exaggerated as the doubling is very slight, mainly noticable in the top left frame, on the ½d value, on the crown, a slight doubling of 'Postage' and by the shadow effect behind the head.

My definition of a 'double impression' is shown by this example of the 1936 1s stamp,
illustrated in S.G. G.B. Vol.2.

I would be interested in any comments from members, particularly if anyone has an example of a 'double impression' as listed by S.G. as my catalogue lists it but does not give an illustration.

Cheers

Ron.


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 Post subject: Transfer from previous board: original post 1232
PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:00 pm 
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Ron,
The vertical perforations on this stamp appear to have been cut, as they are square ended, whereas the perfs at top and bottom of the stamp are uneven, so it is possible that this was a coil stamp, printed from a special cylinder. The apparent double impression is very noticable and could, repeat COULD, be the result of the multipositive (or, indeed, the cylinder itself) moving during the cylinder making process! This is known as a "shifted transfer". Such errors are known to have occurred on some of the early King George VI threehalfpenny cylinders. (See GBJ Vol 1, p.113)


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 Post subject: Transfer from previous board: original post 1238
PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:00 pm 
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Hi Harvey,

Your comment about the character of the perforations indicating a possible coil source made me think also about stamps from booklet panes. I opened a bag of about 1,500 KE8 stamps on pieces yesterday - bought about 35 years ago! - and started looking at them with fresh eyes. I think I saw several stamps that might have been from booklets, showing a particular odd kind of lower edge. But I also looked at vertical strips of three...

Very helpful and thought-provoking comment. Thank you! Robin


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 Post subject: Transfer from previous board: original post 1242
PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:00 pm 
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Hi Harvey,

Thanks for that information - I see what you mean about the perforations.

Unfortunately, I don't have a SG Part 1 - I start at Part 2.

I haven't heard of a "shifted transfer" and can find no mention of it in the SG part 2, A.J. Kirk or Leslie Wilkinson.

That's one of things that makes this hobby so interesting - we've been collecting for over 40 years and are still learning as we go along.

Thanks for the input.

Regards.
Ron.


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 Post subject: Transfer from previous board: original post 1244
PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:05 pm 
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Ron,
Probably - if you were to ask the librarian nicely - he would be able to photocopy and email you a copy of the reference I quoted, ie GBJournal Vol 1, page 113.


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 Post subject: Transfer from previous board: original post 1246
PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:00 pm 
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For your information. This article on a KEVIII double impression came from a Stamp Collecting weekly of 1954.


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 Post subject: Transfer from previous board: original post 1249
PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:05 pm 
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Hmmmmm! The explanation given in the final sentence here (attributed to "Dr Gordon Ward") appears identical to mine, above.


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 Post subject: Transfer from previous board: original post 1250
PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:10 pm 
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Hmmm, am I seeing shadows, or are there two kinds of "Double impression"? From what I've seen there appears to be:

a) two images on the plate/cylinder, from a flaw when the interneg was put together. This would give a constant flaw and something as dramatic as the one illustrated in the article ought to be known by more than one example.

b) A false start, or a bounce in the actual printing. This ought to show a similar, if not identical flaw across or along a row of stamps. As such it would make a spectacular error piece, or pieces (as it would be bound to have been divided into a few to maximize sale value). And possibly would have been shown or auctioned by now.

It all goes to show that there's a lot more to this king than booklets!

Robin


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 Post subject: Transfer from previous board: original post 1253
PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 7:00 pm 
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Dear All,

I just found an article from 1958 about this in KGVI stamps, and will post full details there...

Robin R.


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